Chalk It Up to the First Edition

Are the poem-message and the Polaroid one message? Or two?

72 responses

1. AllieK 04.23.2010

   But I think the message has something to do with how Amanda wants to help people figure out who they are and be their own person.  A shadow prolly means someone who isn’t noticed much who has now “flown free and fast” and maybe found their own person? Maybe Amanda wants us to help another person find their own identity or she’s trying to tell us about someone who already has. Not sure if or how it has anything to do with the pic-it obviously has something to do with Heidi, her family must have donated funds to have the wing built, but thats all I’ve got.

2. JinxTheRipper 04.23.2010

   OH! Does it have anything to with Beatrice? I recall that some doctors decided to restore Beatrice’s face and it was that very same hospital. Callie told Heidi’s mother about the car accident, Heidi ran over Beatrice and after Heidi’s mother heard everything from Callie, and Callie learnt that Beatrice has some generous person who are willing to restore her face. So that’s obvious, it’s linked to Heidi and Beatrice, and also Callie. It’s obvious that Heidi’s family are trying to cover it up about the accident that Heidi has, and decided to pay to restore Beatrice’s face. That wing must belong to Heidi’s family.

3. SarahB 04.23.2010

   The Bragg wing at John Hopkins? That’s not where Bea is being treated, is it?

   I think you should definitely go and visit the hospital! This is looking like a trail Amanda wants you to follow… keep following the clues!

   Maybe there’s been a patient checked in there under the name of “Carrol”, or Valentine, or something else that links Amanda and the poem.

4. SarahB 04.23.2010

   Jinx, you beat me to it; that was exactly what I thought when I saw it!

5. RRRules 04.23.2010

   Maybe AV wants our next stop to be Bea?
   I’m trying a different approach: 1939.
   May 1: Batman appears in comic books.
   MLB Yankee player Lou Gehrig retired. His nickname is “The Iron Horse”
   September 1: WWII begins

6. JinxTheRipper 04.23.2010

   Maybe Beatrice have something vital that could help us to find AV? or maybe Beatrice knows a Carrol like SarahB said. It seem too much of a connection, however i wondered how did AV know about what Heidi has done? I think Amanda knows Beatrice.

7. Callisgalpal 04.23.2010

   I agree with @JinxTheRipper . But does that have to do with the message in the poem? Hmmm…..Maybe it IS related to the accident. When the accident happened Beatrice’s face was all messed up and she got plastic surgery and now she’s happy that she’s not ugly anymore. IDK It’s still doesn’t sound right… But I do think it’s totally related to Heidi and Beatrice.

8. JinxTheRipper 04.23.2010

   I think it does have something with the poem. Here is my theory; You see the purple outlines in the poem? Share, a lonely shadow broken - What i think it meant that Heidi shared what happened to Callie, and a lonely shadow broken could referred to Beatrice. Heidi couldn’t see while she was driving and hit a shadow, and left her there. Beatrice is broken, she is the “Lonely Shadow” because she was alone when she was being hit.

9. Callisgalpal 04.23.2010

   @JinxTheRipper OHHH! Ok now I get what your saying.

10. fashionista17 04.23.2010

    I agree with you JinxTheRipper. It does connect to Heidi, Beatrice, and Callie. Like SarahB said, search the hospital! It’s probably 1 message because the purple highlighted words say, “I have gladness I should share a lonely shadow broken now flown free and fast.”  To me that means that Amanda wants to make Heidi feel better about she did. OR it means that Beatrice is probably in “The Bragg Wing”, and that Amanda has visited Beatrice or something. Maybe Heidi did that in favor for Beatrice. No! I got it! Heidi made her parents do the wing thing, and then Amanda wants Heidi and Beatrice to work it out by what the highlighted words say.

    To decode the purple highlighted words, it most likely means, “I’m so happy that I should get people that had problems with each other and have them be BFFs.” That’s what I think it means.

    That’s all I got for now…...............

11. AwesomeAnna93 04.23.2010

    I think the Bragg wing is just a metaphor for the department of the hospital that Bea was in.

    I have gladness I should share a lonely shadow broken now flown free and fast
    And the quote may mean that Amanda is glad to say that Bea is free from not only the hospital but also from her old self because she finds her new face prettier.

    It could mean that Bea’s family is deciding to move away from Orion and give her a new life somewhere far away from Heidi Bragg.

12. JinxTheRipper 04.23.2010

    I agree with AwesomeAnna93, but Bea’s family moving away from Orion? I mean Bea’s family doesn’t know about the accident that Heidi has caused, and the only person who knew about the accident is Callie.

    Bragg wing isn’t a metaphor, but more like a clue? It could mean Heidi’s family is paying for Bea’s new face. It make sense, i mean Callie told Heidi’s mother about the accident and she decided to do something about it, so the only solution is to restore Bea’s face and cover Heidi’s crimes.

    “I have gladness I should share a lonely shadow broken now flown free and fast.”  - It could mean that AV knew Bea’s accident and set her free from her accident in a way.

    I don’t think there is a wing called The Bragg Wing, but more like a clue to lead others to Bea, there might be another clue in Bea’s hospital or the room Bea is staying in?

13. AwesomeAnna93 04.23.2010

    Jinx,
    Bea’s family might not know about Heidi but really, obviously they know something happened to their daughter and it could be that Bea wants to leave Orion.

    I doubt there is a wing in the hospital called Bragg Wing but I agree that they’re could be a clue in the hospital.

14. JinxTheRipper 04.23.2010

    AwesomeAnna93, that’s what i’ve been meaning to say. I said that Bea’s family doesn’t know what caused her to look like that and who has hit her but they obviously know that she has an accident. Bea might not see Heidi’s face since it’s dark to see.

    Bea leaving Orion? To make a fresh start of her life, that make sense.

    I don’t really think a such wing exists but it’s an important clue, like you said.

15. trumpetgirl 04.23.2010

    JinxtheRipper I agree with the whole Beatrice-plaq-hospital thing. And “I have gladness I should share a lonely shadow broken now flown free and fast,” I understand and agree about Bea and her surgery, but why would Amanda write “I have gladness I should share…etc”. Why would Amanda be sharing Bea’s feelings? Or hardships? And since Heidi’s last name is Bragg, yes JinxtheRipper the Bragg’s could be paying for her surgery I agree. But why would the Bragg Wing be just a clue if it was inscribed on a plaq. Hal, Callie and Nia should go to the hospital to investigate, and then go talk to Bea, ask about her surgery (if she’s comfortable with that) and such.

16. tiffany923 04.23.2010

    i totally think we should check out the wing at the hospital and talk to Bea. I don’t know if maybe i missed some clue in Invisible 1, but maybe amanda has known the braggs and/or convinced them to pay for bea’s surgery. on another note, this is what i think the poem means
    I HAVE GLADNESS I SHOULD SHARE-she thinks she should share her happiness with bea, she’s grateful for what she has.
    A LONELY SHADOW BROKEN- bea was lonely even before the accident, and then she was broken (the accident, not having friends)
    NOW FLOWN FREE AND FAST- now bea is free to be a new person, can make friends, be confident, fly so to speak.
    hope this helped!

17. stef_stone 04.24.2010

    Hi everyone! So sorry I haven’t posted in a while, I plan to be posting regularly again now! Anyway, I agree with what everyone has said so far, especially awesomeanna’s interpretation of the quote. I’d be happy to lead a team to go check at the hospital!

18. _Sakura_ 04.24.2010

    I actually agree with all of you! AwesomeAnna93 does make a good point that maybe Heidi’s family doesn’t own that wing, but there might be a clue somewhere.
    The wing might not be called the “Bragg Wing” but yeah, as many of you said, it might be where Beatrice was treated.

    “I have gladness I should share a lonely shadow broken now flown free and fast”
    Well, maybe this means that now that Beatrice had the surgery that she had because of the money that someone gave her (probably Amanda?) and that Beatrice changed so much after the surgery that she had to be shown to the world.

    And of course it IS possible that Bea left Orion.

19. _Sakura_ 04.24.2010

    I again agree with Jinx that the picture is labeled “The Bragg Wing” because Heidi’s family is paying for Bea’s surgery to cover Heidi’s crimes.

    We should check the room Bea is staying/stayed in to find some clue.

20. AllieK 04.24.2010

    I forgot about Bea XD I agree with Jinx too that the Bragg family is paying for Bea’s surgery to cover up Heidi’s accident.  I agree with trumpetgirl too, why would a wing labeled “the bragg wing” be just a clue if its inscribed on a plaque?

21. Milana 04.24.2010

    About RRRules approach: 1939

    Amelia Earhart was declared officially dead on Jan 5.
    The Wizard of Oz premieres at Grauman’s Chinese Theatre in Hollywood on Aug 15.
    Brian Jacques, British writer of the series Redwall, is born June 15.

    That’s all I could find that could tie into Amanda.  She told me once she loved the series Redwall.  I did too, and it was something we talked about.

    The Amelia Earhart thing scares me.  Declared offically dead, while only missing?

22. AwesomeAnna93 04.24.2010

    Milana: Amelia Earhart was never found. That is whyyy they declared her dead.

23. AwesomeAnna93 04.24.2010

    and AllieK: I don’t think “The Bragg Wing” was on the plaque. I think it was just written on the photo.

    But in any case, if it was written on the plaque itself, perhaps there was a Bragg Wing established in 1939. But because of something between the Bragg family and the hospital…. it could’ve changed.

24. MariaH 04.24.2010

    ok guys, lets get our facts straight.

    1. we now know that there is a Bragg wing, obviously named after Heidi’s family.
    2.the poem found highlighted (A Valentine poem CANNOT not be a clue from Amanda)
    “I have gladness I should share a lonely shadow broken now flown free and fast.

    but…..
    if the book was covered in so much dust it sent Hal into a coughing fit, Amanda must not have done the chalking or the polaroid anytime soon. how long does it take for so much dust to collect?

    So, just to check up on that, Callie, how long has it been since Bea’s incident exactly?
    + and dont forget the named wing

    so thats one strange thing.

    But i totally agree with everyone that the poem is about Bea and its related to the poem. i doubt Amanda would go to the same book twice to add another clue. it jut not like her.

    but what is she trying to tell us.
    i guess u guys have to find out about the wing yourself ‘cause i tried the website of john hopkins but they dont mention anything about dedicated wings.  maybe u guys could try the google map because they give a 360 degrees view of the place and that might give a few clues.
    hope everyone tries out what ive suggested :)

25. AwesomeAnna93 04.24.2010

    maria_haseem::

    its chalk dust so it could’ve been done recently.

26. MariaH 04.24.2010

    WOAH!  i was just thinking, Amanda didnt have to highlight it with chalk.  purple biro is amanda’s thing. so what if the girl who helped amanda with the car was the one who left it there. i mean chalk must be HER thing, considering they graffitied with chalk.

27. MariaH 04.24.2010

    and awesome anna, if u read it again it said the book was dusty too.

28. BlueRoseGrey 04.24.2010

    I totally agree with maria_haseem and the whole chalk-and-car thing. I mean, Amanda had help with the car, right? so maybe its a message from both of them? And with the hospital thing, was it the hospital that Beatrice went to? Is Amanda trying to tell us something about Bea… _again_? And with the Bragg wing! Obviously it has to do with Heidi…. maybe Amanda wants us to get Heidi to come out about the Bea thing? OR… WHAT IF BEA WAS THE PERSON WHO HELPED AMANDA WITH THE CHALKING OF THE CAR?! I mean, Amanda helped Bea by sending money, so it would make sense, right?

29. JinxTheRipper 04.24.2010

    I agree with AwesomeAnna03, the chalk could be done recently. Remember the painting on Mr Thornhill’s car? It must be around that time, since it’s being drawn on by chalks.

    BlueRoseGrey, i can’t rule the possibility out of what you said. It’s a possiblity that Bea could be another guide of Amanda’s or even helped her with the chalking of the car.

30. stef_stone 04.24.2010

    Hey everyone! I just had another idea… we should look up the recent history of who has checked out the book from the library! I volunteer there sometimes, so I could probably do it. Is anyone going this weekend with access to the library server who could check?

31. ThursdaysLove 04.25.2010

    The “Bea-helped-trash-the-VP’s-car” thing does make sense, but wouldn’t some one notice Bea? I mean, practically everyone knows her in school! With her new face, I GUESS it could be a possiblity…

    And back to Amelia Earhart, she COULD actually link to Amanda. Just think about it… Amelia went missing while trying to make history. Amanda has made a lot of history just by disappearing. And this is also really weird. Amelia’s first attempt lead her to a crash in hawaii on March 17th. 5 days after the Ides of March that year.

    Does anyone know how long after Amanda disappeared that Callie, Hal, and Nia were called to Mr. Thornhill’s office? because it would be unusually related if it was the 17th.

32. RRRules 04.25.2010

    Stef, if AV valentino-ed the book, she didn’t have to take it out of the library, only off the shelf. And I don’t think the Orion library keeps records. I volunteer there on occasion too.

    trumpetgirl gave me this crazy idea. She said:
    ~~I understand and agree about Bea and her surgery, but why…would Amanda be sharing Bea’s feelings?”~~
    What if AV is happy for Bea for a reason? What if SHE TOO HAD SURGERY? Maybe AV had something happen to her, and she had to get surgery too?

    Quick Question: We keep on going on about how AV knew about the accident and convinced the Braggs to help Bea.
    But NO ONE KNOWS about the accident! And Heidi HATES Amanda! That doesn’t make any sense.
    What if the Braggs just donated some money to the hospital a while ago, so they have a wing? Maybe they did something charitable?

33. _Sakura_ 04.25.2010

    Well, maybe back in 1939 the hospital might’ve been called “Bragg Wing’’ or something with Heidi’s family name on it, and now they changed the name to John’s Hopkins Medical Center.

34. AwesomeAnna93 04.25.2010

    maria; it said the shelf was dusty not the book…. and the top shelf at a library can easily accumulate dust. i remember when i use to work @ the media center @ Endeavor in like middle school, every week we would have to wipe the wooden shelves because they’d become so dusty.

    it could’ve been that the shelf was already dusty and then the book could’ve been there for a few days to a week and collect dust.

    The Thornhill car thing happened over 1 year ago so if the chalk in the book happened the same time (which I don’t think it did); then that book has been sitting there for one year now.

    
    Sakura, i highly doubt the hospital was called the Bragg Wing. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bragg familt has donated money to the hospital

35. _Sakura_ 04.25.2010

    Probably not, but the Bragg family had to be involved with the hospital for Amanda to have had a picture of the hsopital that is written “Bragg Wing”

    I would be surprised if they did donate some money to the hospital, because they don’t seem like the generous type of people, but it is a good idea, RRRules.

36. ♥MLE♥ 04.25.2010

    I just want to point out something higher up in the comments about Amelia Earheart. The fact the Brigg Wing comes up is kinda tied into the Amelia, a wing, flying? Also Alemlia seems to have disappeared, but didn’t Amanda too? This all seems very conincidental to me. What about you?

37. LINDARTIST 04.25.2010

    Beatrice sounds an awful lot like “Bellatrix.” Hmmm…

38. ThursdaysLove 04.25.2010

    LINDARTIST actually just gave me an idea. I think this was a story from a long time ago but Beatrix Potter is the author of that kids’ book with all the rabbits. Now who is one of the most known characters in Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll (who also wrote this poem)? The rabbit with the pocketwatch! Just putting that out there :)

39. stef_stone 04.25.2010

    I think that someone should go back to the library and look at the “Alice in Wonderland” book… just to see if there are any more clues. Any volunteers?

40. ThursdaysLove 04.25.2010

    I read it very recently actually! The rabbit is actually mentioned very briefly in the beginning. He passed by Alice when she started crying because she thought she would be HUGE forever. The rabbit may have said a word or two but didn’t say much. That’s sadly all I remember though :(

41. Pipper 04.26.2010

    DING!!! idea.
    You know how Bea is getting a surgury, what if she is getting it done in th BRAGG wing. Callie, you talked to Heidi’s mum, and i think she believed you.

42. fashionista17 04.26.2010

    I agree with you BlueRoseGrey. Bea could have helped Amanda paint the car. That also could have been the reason why they were wearing HOODIES?????????? Anyone noticing something but me?

    Pipper, you have a point. In the book, it sounded like Heidi’s mom didn’t believe Callie. I bet Heidi and her mom talked and Heidi confessed the truth. Like I said before, they probably did the wing thing in favor of Bea.

    AwesomeAnna93, the Bragg Wing is probably just a hall of the hospital or a big part of it. RRRules, I doubt that Heidi’s family would do that because aren’t they really rich???? Why would they DONATE money????? Kind of weird to me. ThursdaysLove, like I said, they were wearing hoodies! The only person you could notice is Amanda because of her hoodie falling off and noticing her hair. The other person’s hoodie DIDN’T fall off. So it could be a possibility.

    -emilys861

43. ThursdaysLove 04.27.2010

    Good point, emilys861. I forgot about that detail. Thanks for the refresher :) But what would be BEA’S motive for “decorating” the car? I know that Amanda can be very influential, but why Beatrice, of all people? Does anyone have any suggestions toward that?

    I think RRRules had something going with the Amanda-can-relate-to-Bea. We all know that Amanda likes to change her appearance, but maybe the thing that led to her obsession with change was when she possibly had a surgery similar to Beatrice’s. What do you guys think?

44. JinxTheRipper 04.27.2010

    Maybe Amanda noticed something about Bea or could relate to her in a way? Bea is an outcast, everyone avoided her. Maybe Amanda experienced it? I also think RRRules is onto something. Amanda loves to change her apperance, didn’t you forget that she is a Coyote? A shape-shifter that can change their apperance at will. Amanda changed her hair, clothes, make-up because she likes to shape-shift? I don’t think Amanda has a surgery but that’s a possiblity.

45. fashionista17 04.27.2010

    Well…... Honestly I think that AV noticed that Bea is just like her(an outcast, like JinxTheRipper pointed out.), and she wanted to hang out with her. Then once they became friends, AV wanted to make Bea help her. Sort of like a favor. A BIG one(the painting the car.).

    JinxTheRipper, Amanda does experience it except for Callie, Hal and Nia who are her guides. I also agree with you on that shape-shifting thing. She did LOVE to change her style.

    Oh, and since trumpetgirl pointed out that it was purple pen in the newspaper and on the wall, and I quote:

    “I was dirty from sitting on the floor, sneezy from sniffing all the dust, and beginning to get super frustrated when I spotted a flash of color in the gray pages of the Orion Sentinel. And there it was, just a skinny little section in the Arts & Leisure section, except someone had drawn a border in purple ink around the headline and text.”

    Would AV(or the same person that wrote the writing on the wall) have purple chalk too? They could have done the same thing with the chalk in the book. Coincidence?

    
    -emilys861

46. trumpetgirl 04.27.2010

    emilys861- Oh yeah! I forgot about the chalk! But it might not have as much meaning as the meaning of the message, but I think it is all done by the same person. Amanda. Because we proved the jewel was her’s, she must have circled the text in the newspaper article, so why wouldn’t she continue to use the same color so it would at least let us know it was her that did these things.

47. ThursdaysLove 04.27.2010

    I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING!!! In the video about TAP ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBFFmP_8Dug )they say that there are FOUR GUIDES!!!!! Not three!! Could Bea possibly be the lizard totem on Mr. Thornhill’s car and the fourth guide?! After all the assumptions we’ve made about Amanda and Bea wouldn’t it make sense for them to be close like Callie, Hal, and Nia was?

    Or am I just totally insane?

48. ThursdaysLove 04.28.2010

    MandysBoy, yes this is about Bea and Heidi. But we already know that Heidi hates Amanda or Amanda is TRYING to tell us something about Heidi. I don’t know which. And emilys861, THANK YOU! :) So does anyone happen to remember what the lizard totem entails so that we can OFFICIALLY tell if Beatrice really is a guide.

49. MandysBoy 04.28.2010

    This has to have something to do with Beatrice and Heidi. Maybe the Bragg Wing is really the name of the wing, maybe it’s not, but either way, this is worth investigating.

50. fashionista17 04.28.2010

    ThursdaysLove, you aren’t insane. You’re absolutely right! Bea could be one of the guides! I totally forgot about that! I agree with you on EVERYTHING you just said! OMG i totally forgot! You are so right!

51. stef_stone 04.29.2010

    I agree! This could be a great new clue!

52. _Sakura_ 04.29.2010

    ThursdaysLove, I think you’re a genius!! Bea IS probably the 4th guide for Amanda- like Callie, Hal and Nia.

    You MUST be right!

    So, wait-  She decorated the Thornhills’ (IF she did) car, then she MUST know where Amanda is. I think it’s worth asking what she knows about Amanda. And if she helped Amanda with decorating the car, Amanda might’ve have asked for the BRAGG wing in the hospital to put Bea in after the surgery.

    Tell me what you guys think about my idea.

53. izzap2 04.29.2010

    (About the poem)
    I think that the message WASNT left by Amanda. Theres all this talk about a possible fourth guide (lets call them G4) and he/she/it could have left the message. From my point of view, Amanda is the “lonely shadow”, and the “broken now” bit could refer to the ugly divorce she mentioned to you, and the flown free bit is like, “forget about the past”. so, the whole thing translates as:
    I am happy to share Amanda, however she may have had her heart broken by her family, but she has forgotten about the past.
    so basically what the message is asking you to do is follow her example and forget about the past.
    (maybe.)

54. izzap2 04.29.2010

    actually, on second thoughts, Tiffany123 could be right as well…

55. fashionista17 04.29.2010

    _Sakura_, I agree with you.

56. JinxTheRipper 04.30.2010

    I never thought there would be a fourth guide. I just assumed the four kids just mean Callie, Nia, Hal and Amanda but it could be BEA! GENIUS ;o We should check out Bragg’s wing and find out if Bea knows Amanda, or maybe she’s the one who’s leaving the clues, she was told by Amanda to leave clues but then again, who knows. 

    _Sakura_, i don’t think Bea knows where is Amanda but she could hold another clue for us?

57. _Sakura_ 04.30.2010

    Well, Jinx, it is ALWAYS possible that she DOES know where she is. Yeah, it wouldn’t hurt to ask her about Amanda.

58. RRRules 04.30.2010

    Back up, back up! Doesn’t it say somewhere that Guide 4 is a GUY? Last I checked, Bea’s a girl.

59. B0rnAquarius 04.30.2010

    If Bea is Guide 4 ,then the “Bea-helped-Amanda-draw-on-Thornhilla-car” theroy would be a little more realilistic. However, I think there is something in the vook about Guide 4 being male.

60. trumpetgirl 04.30.2010

    I remember we talked about the 4th guide being a guy, but I can’t seem to recall if it said exactly in the video that the 4th guide was a guy. but if that’s the case it can’t be Bea I agree. (Haha that rhymed!)

61. ThursdaysLove 05.01.2010

    Does anyone know where the “4th-guide-is-a-guy” information is? Because I haven’t heard anything about it. But I guess it could make sense! Either way, it still IS possible for Bea to have helped Amanda chalk up the car. But do we know if Bea is at all good at art? Because there is no WAY Amanda could do that good of a job by herself.

62. trumpetgirl 05.01.2010

    http://theamandaproject.mobi/video/
    That’s where it says the 4th guide thing. I know it’s .mobi, but you can still access it on the computer, but I don’t know why…

63. trumpetgirl 05.01.2010

    http://www.theamandaproject.com/welcome
    this is another, easier access to it. It never actually says she choose a guy for the 4th guide, just that she choose 4 kids.

64. ThursdaysLove 05.01.2010

    Okay, I’ve been reading over some of the last few “Our Stories” entries and so far there is nothing about a guy being the fourth guide. There was suspicion that Susanna was the G4, but it didn’t seem likely (considering Susanna didn’t know Amanda enough to recognize “Diane”). So any other sources of G4 info?

65. fashionista17 05.01.2010

    Well…................ Not really.

66. ThursdaysLove 05.01.2010

    Now really what, emilys861? Am I missing something?

67. ThursdaysLove 05.02.2010

    I meant Not really what. My bad! Sorry :)

68. fashionista17 05.04.2010

    I meant when you asked this question:

    So any other sources of G4 info?

    I said:

    Well…................ Not really.

    Get it now?

69. ThursdaysLove 05.04.2010

    Ohhhhhhh yes! Sorry for my mucho stupidity! XD

70. fashionista17 05.07.2010

    No problem!

71. B0rnAquarius 05.14.2010

    If Guide 4 is a guy, then who could it be if he is in Orian???

72. lemondrop 09.04.2010

    AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! Ok, so do you guys remember how Bea was going to get her face restructured at JOHN HOPKIN’S? And that happened right after Callie told Heidi’s mom about Heidi’s “accident”? The BRAGG WING?! That is SO not a coincidence!!!