Rhyme & Reason

We should keep looking for more clues. Can everyone take a look through Invisible I and the web site to see if there could be any other possible connections between Callie’s mom and Amanda?

43 responses

1. Milana 11.13.2009

   Did you go anyway?  Or did you try to find Madam Zee and ask her?  Could it have been Callie’s mom, or Amanda?  If we could just go back in time.  Maybe Amanda did, and that’s how she knew about the lab… hang on… brain flash.
   Maybe Amanda lost her mom and is trying to find her.  Maybe she feels a connection to all three of you- was she artistic like Hal?  She was smart and cool like Nia, so maybe this is her connection to Callie.  Maybe her parents were friends with Callie’s mom, and they went missing together.

2. SarahB 11.13.2009

   Callie has a ton of notepads all around her house with the lab’s logo on, doesn’t she? Or is that from another lab?

   The way that Amanda was so insistent about Callie and her mom up on the hill… I think it’s obvious from that that they knew one another somehow. Perhaps Callie’s mom and Amanada are involved in the same secret project… something that Mr Thornhill knew about too, which is why he had that note from Callie’s mom, and a note from Amanda.

3. juliawesome 11.13.2009

   Or what about the fact that Amanda told the old couple that her name was Callie Remember: Amanda told Callie that she lived in that house with her grandparents, and when Callie and her dad went to see if Amanda was there, the old couple who really lived there were saying how the girl they knew (Amanda) was named Callie, and that her mom was an astronomer..that always struck me as odd.

4. SarahB 11.13.2009

   I noticed that Amanda’s story to the people in the fake apartment that she pretended to live in was nothing to do with any real person, unlike the story she told to the elderly couple. This made me wonder if Amanada had more of a connection to Callie than to Hal or Nia.

5. Raquel494 11.13.2009

   I think that there’s definitely a connection between Callie’s missing mom and Amanda, who’s also missing. Also, something was up between Amanda, Callie’s mom, and Mr. Thornhill. Maybe Amanda was someone important to him, perhaps? I mean, why is he so interested in Amanda? And why did Amanda chose HIS car to write a message to Hal, Callie, and Nia? And why did she leave a note to Mr. Thornhill?

6. soccachik666 11.13.2009

   hmmmm… how about that gov’t computer that callies dad was looking at to figure out if callies mom was alive. Didn’t he get fired for that? Matbe we should look for that computer…. and check out the scoop on thornhill…

7. Kenzi 11.14.2009

   After this new peice of information we should definately track down that computer and figure out whats up with Thornhill.
   I have been to Callie’s house enough times to recognize the logo on the notepads and that is most definately it. I think that maybe we should look into the Astro Raven Conservatory…where is it? Maybe we should go there and investigate if it is within driving distance? There might be clues.

8. SarahB 11.14.2009

   The observatory closed like 20 years ago though. There’s probably not much there anymore, if anything.

   Maybe it would be better to try and track down other people who worked there, or had something to do with the observatory. I’d start with the other people in that photograph with Callie’s mom, if you can figure out who they are.

   Wacky idea: Maybe Amanda’s mom, her real mom, worked at Astro Raven with Callie’s mom.

9. Kenzi 11.15.2009

   I just got back from the library, I needed to read some old articles because I have this assignment to write about-well you dont care about my homework load. But I found an old newspaper dated what must have been 20 years ago with the headline: Workers Protest Closing of Astro Raven Observatory! Anyways apparently when the Astro Raven Observatory closed there was a protest leaded by…get this the protest was leaded by Maria Valentino and many other workers joined in. Also on the newspapers cover there was a cayote sticker. There was also a picture of a girl who looked almost excactly like Callie and who must have been Amanda’s mom. Astro Raven was also located a few miles out of Orion.
   I also went on the librarys computer to look up names I only got a couple though othher then Maria Valentino and Callies mom…Suzan Depot, Brenda Smith, Robert Clark and Bill Xpenedra.

10. dem_94 11.15.2009

    Maybe the story Amanda told to the people in the apartment is real. Maybe it’s someone we don’t know yet. Someone who might also be looking for Amanda.

    Where exactly was Amanda before she came to Orion. She could have been anywhere, and known anyone. Do you guys think there’s any way these mysterey people might be connected to the observatory?

11. Raquel494 11.15.2009

    You know, I’ve been thinking.  What if Amanda’s mom and Callie’s mom is the SAME person?  I mean, someting weird is going on between all of that, don’t you guys think?  IDK, it might sound obsurd to some people, but I’m kinda thinking about that.

12. AniStory 11.15.2009

    What if Amanda and Callie are related through Callie’s mom?

13. crummyblaire 11.15.2009

    Wow alot happened since I last came on!  Raquel494 and AniStory I think you are on to something.  Amanda never said much about her parents to me.  She said that Callie’s mom looked like her though. I asked how she new her but she just said I can just feel it.  I think Callie’s mom ran away after she had Amanda to start a new life.  Maybe she left Amanda in the orphanage and left her stuff so she would eventualy find her. Maybe Callie’s mom hid Amanda because of some dark secret which we are starting to reveal.  Callie’s mom probably afraid of what would happen between Callie and Amanda.I don’t know what she knew though.  I’ve heard of dark problems that people who did card readings and had children some dark power will be unleashed.

      I heard all that from my grandparents who know alot about that stuff. No internet used.

14. Kenzi 11.15.2009

    I was just watching a Friends repeat and it was the episode where Pheobe finds out that her mom wasn’t really her mom. She finds out that her mom, another lady and her father were a couple and that the other lady was her real mom…
    I was thinking and maybe thats like the same thing that happened with Amanda?

15. Maddie 11.16.2009

    hey im maddie.  i just started going to school with u guys this year so bear with me. i didnt really know amanda, ive seen her before but never really got to know her… but based on wat u guys r telling me maybe she wants to be found but she cant tell u guys right out or u guys may get in the same situation as she is in now…  as far as callie goes maybe their half sisters??? maybe there r some clues in the raven observitory… anyone remember the skeleton key that opened the door to the secret room… maybe you should try to open a few doors at the observitory???

16. Raquel494 11.16.2009

    Yep, I definitely think Amanda and Callie are sisters.  I like crummyblaire’s theory which sounds a lot like mine.

17. Uppercase 11.17.2009

    The only thing that is positive is that they both left, maybe not intentionally. Maybe for the same reason.

18. Kenzi 11.17.2009

    I dont think they are half-sisters because weren’t they the same age?
    They could be long-lost twins or something but I find that a little unlikely…the only way I think they could be half sisters is if they pulled the same thing that Pheobe’s parents pulled.

19. Emalee 11.17.2009

    Mr. Thornhill deffinately does seem very interested in Amanda, and how come he was so adamant that callie and nia and hal knew where she was? I think thornhill knows exactly what is giong on, and i think it’s the same thing that happened to callie’s mom

20. Maddie 11.17.2009

    maybe knowing to much is dangerous… maybe thats y amanda is being so cryptic… im interested as to how mr. thornhill is related to this… so many people who know way more than they let on… orion has so many secrets…
    hey kenzi… just thinking… if amanda and callie are in fact half sisters (lets just be theoretical here) who do you think is amanda’s father???

21. Kenzi 11.17.2009

    I think and this is just a theory…
    I think it might be Thornhill.

22. Maddie 11.17.2009

    kenzi… u too???? yes!!!! i’m not crazy!!!! that explains his interest in amanda… but then callie and amanda would have to be half sisters because then they couldnt be twins… heyyyyy!!!!! maybe we’re onto something… what if callie and amanda are ferternal twins (they don’t look like each other but are twins) that would mean that either callie’s dad or thornhill would be the father to both of them… i still the think the half sister theory makes mores sense though where amanda and callie have the same mom but amanda’s dad could be thornhill and callie’s dad is her dad…

23. Raquel494 11.17.2009

    Yep, I think Kenzi and iceracer77899 are onto something.  I’d thought before that Thornhill had a special interest in Amanda, but why?  And why had Callie’s mom left that note to Thornhill?  Maybe it is because Thornhill is Amanda’s dad, but who knows?

24. crummyblaire 11.17.2009

    Wait but isn’t Callie and Amanda born on the same day?
    I agree that maybe Thornhill is Amanda’s dad but how could Amanda and Callie be half sisters and be the same age? I lost my book so I am just doing this from momory so I think they had the same b-day.  Does anyone know when Amanda’s b-day was?  Maybe Amanda and Callie are both daughters of Thornhill and Callie’s “Dad” is just a hoax.

25. Maddie 11.17.2009

    crummyblaire… that makes total sense… i was thinking about that but then how is callie’s dad part of this story, why would he have raised callie??? well, anyways, this theory is making more and more sense.  Callie and Amanda are twins, their mom is Callie’s mom and their dad is Thornhill. OR Callie and Amanda are half sisters and their dad is Thornhill and Callie’s mom is Callie’s mom and Amanda has a different mom… but how would they have the same birthday??? any other ideas????

26. whatthefeck30 11.17.2009

    im amanda, im alive. dont try to find me. thanks

27. crummyblaire 11.17.2009

    whatthefeck30 you can’t be Amanda.

28. Maddie 11.18.2009

    that is impossible… whatthefeck30 that is so dumb

29. Kenzi 11.18.2009

    Guys lets not put eachother down! Maybe whattheheck is just new to the project!! And also I agree I think their twins and that Thornhill is their dad! Maybe Callie’s dad is just a hoax or something…

30. SarahB 11.18.2009

    We don’t really know how old Amanda is, do we? We can’t trust that anything Amanda ever told anyone is really true.

    I don’t beleive that Thornhill is really Callie’s Dad. I think Callie’s Dad loved Callie’s Mom, and vice versa… Callie talks about how devoted they were to each other in Invisible I.

    I like dem_94’s idea that the person Amanda said she was to the people in the apartment really exists too, and is looking for Amanda…

31. hj_brunette 11.18.2009

    Theres one thing we all can agree on: Callie’s mom and Amanda are somehow connected.

    But think about it, there seems to be someone else tossed in the mix. What are the chances that two people will disappear, but before they do, they send a note to the same person asking for him to help. Mr. Thornhill. Even though both Callie’s mom and Amanda seemed to have problems with him, they both went to him. Callie’s mom wanted Callie looked over and she went to him. Amanda wanted to protect them from danger, she went to him. Obviously in the case of Callie’s mom, Mr. Thornhill is in the know, so maybe he knows a little more about Amanda too?

32. Raquel494 11.18.2009

    I agree with SarahB.  I also don’t think Thornhill is Callie’s real dad, but, like I’ve said before, I DO think he’s Amanda’s dad.  And, well, Callie and Amanda might be half sisters.  And why is whatthefeck30 saying she’s Amanda?  I don’t think Amanda would have ‘whatthefeck30’ as her screen name, somehow, it doesn’t sound like her, IDK.

33. Raquel494 11.18.2009

    I also like hj_brunette’s theory

34. AniStory 11.19.2009

    Wonder if Callie’s mom’s disapperence has to do something with a weird project at job and Amanda is somehow part of that project?

35. Kenzi 11.19.2009

    Well I really think that Thornhill is Amanda’s dad…but I also think that Amanda is a high school student! There must be something we can do to figure out the connection? I mean the one thing she kept the same through every story was her birthdate right??

36. Milana 11.19.2009

    Yeah, uh, sorry, but I don’t buy the Thornhill Theory.  (I’m sorry, but when you imagine Thornhill as Amanda’s dad, well, it’s just freaky.)  Also, why was she elsewhere?  Was her mom in hiding?  Was she and illigitamate child?  I don’t believe Amanda and Callie are sisters.  Cousins?  Maybe their moms were sisters?  It’s a possibility…

37. Kenzi 11.20.2009

    Actually that kinda makes sense…them being cousins…‘cuz the newspaper article had a picture of both Amanda and Callie’s moms! Anyways remember how I was telling you about that newspaper article I found in the library archives? Yah well I went back and I searched all the names-sorry I didn’t mention my own investigation to you earlier I was just wayy busy-and apparently Robert Clark died right after the closing of Astro Raven…anyways there was a picture of him and it almost looked like Thornhill…weird right??? So I looked up Thornhill and apparently he moved to Orion the year Robert Clark died!! What do you think thats all about????
    I think we should contact one of the other workers on my list…what do you think is it a good idea?? I happen to know for a fact that Suzan Depot still lives in the same house she did while working at Astro Raven Observatory and I have her phone number and address so maybe we can track her down??

38. Maddie 11.20.2009

    the cousins theory (niceee milana) is making more and more sense… that means that thornhill theory (kinda catchy… lol) can still be true for amanda and that callie’s dad is not a hoax… that also means that it would make sense for amanda and callie’s mom to go to him when they were in trouble… but wat doesnt make sense is why thornhill/robert clark (idk wat to call him now) faked his death… but anyways i think its a great idea to talk to people and figure out as much as we can about thornhill/clark, amanda’s mom and callie’s mom… suzan depot is as good a place as any to start.  hey kenzi can i come w/ u when u call/go to see suzan depot????

39. Kenzi 11.21.2009

    Yah sure I say the more the merrier!

40. anonymous13 11.22.2009

    i think thornhill/clark had to fake his death cuz maybe somebody was after him. then whoever it was found him and that’s how he got attacked maybe.

41. chmivita1234 12.25.2009

    Amanda and Callie’s mom have a couple things in common….... one is that thy both go missing….. the second is they both have been sending messages to Callie, Hal and Nia….

42. fun-lovingisi 12.30.2009

    If they were cousins wouldn’t they look more alike? anyway maybe Thornhill is/was married to Amanda’s mom? is her mom even still alive? And that means Callie’s mom is good friends with thornhill so she knew that she could trust him. Amanda transfered to Endeavor because thornhill tracked her down. but the question is what did thornhill tell amanda? does she know he is her father? Either way she trusts him alot and probably knows why callie’s mom dissapeared. Amanda is trying to help callie find her mother and protect her at the same time

43. Na5na 01.06.2010

    this is just confuzzling ! I just read the book, and Amanda and Callies mom have nothing to relate. And, i’m sorry cause i didn’t read the post, i’m not really bothered, counting it’s so long. so, x, Na5na—the 5 is silent.